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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2013 18:36:38 GMT -8
My sources say that the fastest Sonic has ever run is 80 metres a second. Though Eggman is faster.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2013 18:37:31 GMT -8
Your sources are wrong. >_>
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2013 18:41:19 GMT -8
Skype'd in case source isn't AK safe. It probably is, but I'll let Aki judge on that one.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2013 18:58:04 GMT -8
Yeah, that's basically Classic Sonic. Even then, it's the mechanics that make him so slow.
Sonic does have different canons, though. New Wave Sonic is definitely faster in the following installations -- he does break the sound barrier -- and comic Sonic is even more ridiculous. Pick your poison, I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2013 19:10:24 GMT -8
Then if Chaos Emeralds are allowed... Forget it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2013 19:16:22 GMT -8
I believe that Sonic would win hands down, except if it was a race around the beach at the base of a long, thin peninsula, and the cliff had a tunnel painted on it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2013 19:19:35 GMT -8
I like the Roadrunner better, so I'll cheer for him.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2013 19:23:25 GMT -8
Well, I mean... You could also argue that the Roadrunner is conceptually bound to be the speed of a coyote +1 at all times.
I think I'm onto something.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2013 19:33:28 GMT -8
Again, Robotnik is faster than Sonic
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2013 19:37:02 GMT -8
The Flash is faster than Robotnik. Do you know what they have in common, though?
Neither are Sonic, and neither are the Roadrunner.
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Post by Mhairyn "Aryn" Dirson on Jun 26, 2013 19:44:59 GMT -8
I like the Roadrunner better, so I'll cheer for him. o.ob
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2013 19:46:11 GMT -8
Yeah, but it is clear. Sonic is faster than the roadrunner. Carb is the only one who says otherwise
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Post by Mallach Dirson on Jun 26, 2013 21:04:46 GMT -8
Well, I don't think that's true. Road Runner's speed has never been truly confirmed. We only know that at any point in time he can hop up, tap his heels, honk and take off leaving anything in his wake standing still, whilst bending the road in his wake as he does so.
He is literally there one second, and gone the next. And is capable of stopping upon a dime to boot.
As I said, Flash worthy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2013 22:47:04 GMT -8
What's being compared here is two things that fundamentally can't be compared - I guess apples to oranges? On the one hand, you have Sonic, who is regularly given new definition as well as new tools with which to surpass that definition; his actual speed is dependent less so much on the requirements of the story so much as what the writer can achieve using the tools at his disposal to display the speed.
The Roadrunner, on the other hand, is perpetually travelling in a manner inconsistent with what before the application of his speed was any sort of consistency with his reality. He's essentially moving so fast as to become thought - presuming he is not in fact the entire time been a figment of the coyote's imagination, a desire so powerful that it is perceived as real. In that case, it makes sense completely that the Roadrunner's speed is n+1, n=coyote's current speed, and also that his very arrival and passing through a scene results in the devastation of reality, ie roads lifting off the ground or his own figure passing through a hole painted on a wall - or causing a locomotive to come crashing through the far side of said hole, or any other number of implausible results.
Basically we're comparing the speed of a perpetual variable against the speed of imagination, is what I'm deciding now.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 0:54:53 GMT -8
Let's not toss around buzzwords such as ''fundamentally'' when we're discussing entities that have the laws of Physics at their beck and call. Sonic's inconsistencies in terms of speed can actually be accounted for, and are for the most part quantifiable; the problem here is that ''Sonic'' is a composite character of his incarnations throughout several mediums, and his feats range from supersonic to outright breaching the speed of light -- here, you'd need to clarify which canon you want to go by, unless we're to interpret Sonic as an amalgamation of all his showings.
Inconsistent? If anything, the Roadrunner is the more consistent character -- we've seen how fast the Roadrunner can go, and there's little to contradict whether he can replicate that feat, whereas Sonic is given the incentive that allows us to quantify his maximum speed upon multiple occasions and raises/lowers his own bar ad nauseam. His actual speed is a variable dependent on the requirements of the story as much as the tools from which the scenes are rendered.
But I could just as well pull up comic Sonic, who has surpassed the speed of light. The Roadrunner has never peered that -- what he DOES have is toonforce, so you could argue that he could literally ''for the lulz,'' but then the race is barely a formality and Mal is a jerk.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 4:00:24 GMT -8
Gone for a day and i'm already this far behind D:
So to try and catch up Sengoku would beat Malik because he has an awesome beard.
The Spiderman vs. Batman fight has a lot of variables though after seeing Death Battle I have to agree that Spiderman would most likely win though I personally would root for Batman anyway.
Also if the Roadrunner and Sonic raced then it's obvious that the Tortoise would win. Because slow and steady wins the race.
So for the next match who would win in a fight between the Keebler Elves vs. The Pillsbury Doughboy. On the one hand the elves have numbers on their side. But on the other hand the doughboy doesn't feel pain. He only laughs at people's attempts to hurt him.
EDIT: Sorry about the link being right there. Not sure how to make it just be a normal link and its late.
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Post by Caden Reinhart on Jun 27, 2013 6:15:40 GMT -8
Id say Doughboy unless one of the elves found a weakspot and went Shadow of the Colosuss on him o.o
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 7:13:16 GMT -8
I request that this discussion is made in spoiler tags as I'm hungry and don't want to read about your food.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 8:38:50 GMT -8
Keebler Elves versus- yeah, it would be Crazy's suggestion.
But I'll kill that flat right now; when's the last time we saw the Keebler Elves in a commercial? 2012 maybe? The Doughboy is still around.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 8:51:04 GMT -8
We could also apply Nasu logic, meaning that the older the better.
And the Doughboy is older.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 9:26:31 GMT -8
And I'm hungry
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 9:51:20 GMT -8
Let's put together some interesting combinations in here folks.
Zero from Megaman Zero versus Iron Man. Have at it!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 9:52:07 GMT -8
The Pillsbury Doughboy is an eldritch abomination in the guise of a cute, fluffy, and presumably tasty little humanoid. He laughs at all attempts to harm him. The Keebler Elves are stupid, tiny little losers that make subpar sweets and can be picked up and crushed betwixt one's fingers.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 9:54:14 GMT -8
Probably Iron Man
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 9:59:11 GMT -8
Iron Man has the unfair advantage of being able to fly, so I can see the battle tilting heavily towards his end. Also, I'm not certain of how well the Zero Buster will be able to harm Iron Man's armour.
Then again, both characters tend to get heavy upgrades and customizations so...but Zero can't fly, so an advantage is an advantage.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 10:01:25 GMT -8
I don't know much about Zero, but from the look of things, he's primarily a melee combatant, using his saber (which, admittedly, seems quite powerful). I'd give this one to Iron Man; all he needs to do is fly out of range and spam his repulsor beams, missiles, and other tech while dodging the much weaker buster shots/gunshots from Zero. Or, hey, House Party Protocol. v:
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 10:19:01 GMT -8
To play devil's advocate: Megaman Zero can stop time, if I'm not misremembering. Either way, unless we're giving Tony access to absurdities like the Thorbuster, he's definitely not going to enjoy anything in Zero's arsenal.
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Post by Caden Reinhart on Jun 27, 2013 10:25:12 GMT -8
Yeah, stoping time was one of the powers both Megaman and Zero had at thier disposal. I want to say Zero fought flying enemies before, but they were silly enough to fly low enough to be in his range. So Iron Man would have an advantage. But Zero is preaty mobile on his own right. While I do like him, I think Iron man might have the edge here.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 10:28:04 GMT -8
Yeah, Tony probably does take this if he plays his cards right, and there's no reason to believe he won't.
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Post by Caden Reinhart on Jun 27, 2013 10:33:12 GMT -8
Id honestly would prefer to see Megaman himself fight against him. Seems like moe fair of a fight. If only because Megaman can fly as well xP At least the X version.
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